I am recalling more and more of the conversations I shared when I was a child after my 'near death experiences.' I am focused on trying to write down some of the experiences during childhood for my website. The number seven was always a factor involved. I can recall trying to touch the surface of the 'various' bodies involved with the 'spirit' on the other side when I spoke to the musketeers in the early 80's. Someone told me about 'ancient sages' or new age theories about the various 'astral bodies.' I feel I flipped through a book and couldn't make sense of their description of it. (I know that the book Finding the Third Eye touched upon this as well.)
I didn't have a clear memory of it so - I dropped it and never pursued any literature about it.
I wrote a reply on another board and some drawings I drew as a child came back to mind. I had tried to express and explain it to my parents and then later my grandparents. There was a heavy period where there was a great deal of chaos associated with the 'trauma' and drama that came in the aftermath of my initial NDE at the age of six. I had been talking about 'death' and 'dying' as well as 'flying outside' of my body months before the medical condition was finally diagnosed. Then my parents had to sit, watch and hold my hand while I went through the seizures. They had to watch as breath left my body and I would be in a 'lifeless' state for a length of time before I caught my breath and came back to life. As you can image - my parents were under a great deal of stress watching their child die right before their eyes. But both of my parents would see my spirit on it's way out and on it's way back in. I wrote about the 'long john' body before. That was a duplicate spiritual body of the physical body.
On the drawing - I tried to define and describe the seven layers - or 'bodies' involved. I only called the first two bodies - because I identified that as a body.
2) Physical > Spirit (Long John)
3) Spirit > Pure Spirit (Naked)
4) Pure Spirit (Orb)
5) Pure Spirit > Soul
6) Soul > Absolute Soul
7) Absolute Soul
My parents didn't like seeing me in either my 'long john' or 'naked' body. What I spoke about a great deal was the 'ball of light' I would become.
I went on a google search trying to see what others had written about the 'astral bodies' in ancient literature or new age jargoon and found something that is close to what I described in 1966-1969 as a child. (7 Bodies of Man
The image above is sort of close but there wouldn't be any sort of 'aura' surrounding the 'ethrical double.' You also wouldn't see any sort of 'orb' within the etherical double. It would just be a transparent image of the physical body.
The 'third layer' would be what my parents called the 'blob glob.' It would appear like a large aura that would appear in a 'white fog' like appearance and retain a 'humanoid' shape to it. Unlike the photo to the right, there wouldn't be any solid human form in the middle. It would just be like a misty transparent fog in the shape of a human. I referred to this as my own Capser when I was a child - and this was the form that came to be called 'naked.' When I (as a spirit) climbed out of the 'long john' body - this is the body that would appear. Unlike the photograph - you wouldn't see a 'light' in the center of the humanoid type of arua of light. What would happen after that was like an implosion. The 'humanoid shape would implode and then the 'orb' (or ball of light) would appear. My parents wouldn't freak out at the sight of this 'orb of light.' Those who did see this 'spiritual body' would state it looked like a 'transparent glowing 'soap bubble.' People would freak out as much when they had sight of this.
I couldn't get into the 'ball' form until I passed through the other two.
I can recall taking off and running as fast as I could during my NDE in an effort to keep my parents from seeing me 'getting' naked and then bounce into a ball and fly around the room. I had done this once with my Mom. She not only was in tears from the sight of my physical body being without life - she say what she called my 'ghost' - which was the 'duplicate' body ... then she saw the 'aura' of light without any facial features appear and she freaked out and screamed in an hysterical way. She felt it was the 'grim reaper' showing up to 'steal her' son's soul away. I couldn't explain to her that it was me.
I told her prior to one NDE that I would come to her sight - as an orb and I had her running around the room trying to knock holes in the wall trying to get away from 'my orb.' In the end - showing my 'spirit' in any form after my NDE - just caused more harm than it did any good.
After it was over and I was alive and well trying to talk about it with my parents - they would be able to tell if it was their imagination sparked by all my conversations prior to the events taking place - or - if some 'demon' masquerading as a 'being of light' was showing up trying to take advantage of their minds due to the stress. They were full of their own theories and didn't like to think they were actually seeing my ghost came at them.
I was talking to a friend today and asked him, "What would you think if you was standing next to a young 8 or 9 year old and he took off running saying he had to go get naked?"
My friend busted out laughing. That was the whole point. We were trying to find ways to talk about something that was so stressful and full of bad memories and put a spin on it to soften the blow of what was really involved. After I was nine years old - my parents, family and siblings would not follow me into the bedroom if I ran by them and said "I have to get naked." We were hiding the truth under the noses of any one who may be present and people would be laughing about it - instead of crying.
I started recalling this aspect when I wrote down the memory of my Aunt catching me 'naked' when she ran into the bedroom because I had been crying and then stopped. She couldn't stop herself and it was part curiosity. My grandparents had been looking after me to give my parents a break from all the stress - and both my parents told my Grandparents to run the opposite direction when I ran by them warning them I was about to get naked. I can recall my Mom telling my Grandmother on the telephone - "You will see things you do NOT want to see because will drive you to the edge of insanity and you will have to do everything in your power from going over the edge."
My aunt didn't get that warning and ran into catch sight of my duplicate body. When I spoke to her about it afterwards - I told her I had left my 'long johns' on the bed - and I had gone off in the 'ball' body. When people were in the room - it was like going out of body twice. I was having an out of body and out of spirit adventure. She admitted that she had seen the 'orb of light' flying through the wall and then saw the 'Casper' type aura of a humanoid shape appear. To her mind - it was a 'being of light' and that is what made her take off running. She was confused because she saw my 'physical body' laying on the bed lifeless as well as my 'duplicate' body sitting on the side of the bed with a far off zombie look on it's face. I told her I wasn't in either one of those body but still had a 'thread' that strung me together and that is why I heard her screaming and came back to my other two bodies. This really confused my Aunt.
I had so many NDE's between the age of six and nine that I had a routine. If no one was in the room with me - then I didn't have to worry about anyone seeing the 'zombied' looking 'duplicate long john' body so I would just leave it on the side of the bed and take the 'trip' into the light with the 'orb' shaped body.
When I had the "out of body' experiences prior to the medical condition being diagnosed - and was visiting hospital to watch other people when they passed out of their bodies like I had done - this is the process I would see happening.
The 'middle body' was the layer you have to reduce down to - to pass to the other side. Once you got to the 'forth' layer - and passed over - there was a reverse process that would take you back into the 'absoulute body' or what the author from the above link refers to the Divine. This is the "Being of Light' (or Christ Figure) some NDE'ers give testimony of as 'greeting' them. This is the half way point.
My testimony of this as a child was so vivid and frequent as a child. One day my Grandparents were showing me a photo album. they had heard my testimony and thought it was full of imagination and didn't know how to take the idea of me changing into a bouncing ball to bounce into heaven. I was pointing out relatives that had passed away in the photo album. My Grandparents were confused how I had seen them as they appeared while they were on earth - if all my testimony, the testimony of my parents and the testimony of my aunt had involved morphing into a 'bouncing orb' of light to get to heaven. They asked how I could recognize them if they left their 'long john' body or duplicate image behind.
There was a transformation stage on the other side where the 'soul's' of relatives and loved ones would come to greet you. The reply I gave my grandparents was,
"They just spit the bubble back out for the welcome back."
To me - the 'breath' was the life of the person. The breath was the spirit. The same breath that was in the human being would return to the 'soul being.' If you were greeting someone who was caught up in the transformation - the 'soul' could 'blow' that 'bubble' (spirit) out for the greeting and then 'draw' the 'breath' back into it after the greeting phase was over. Being that I was only there for a temporary recess - they all knew I was returning to my body. So - for me - it was like someone pulling out a photograph of themselves when they were younger and showing it to me so I could remember what they looked like - not then - but when they were in the world of man as a relative of mine.
To me - the morphing into the 'orb' of light was necessary for the sake of getting through the 'door' between here and there.
I don't know if I would have ever had sight of this - if it wasn't for me seeing it as a 'spirit' when I watched other people pass away - and then having my parents describe what they were seeing when they saw me 'die' before their eyes. When you caught up on the motion of the NDE and going from here to there - you just have a point of view of inside looking out.
My Dad worked at a place that had a cylinder air shut where you put papers into the cylinder and it swoops up a long pipe into an office at the other side of a building. When I saw that (at the age of nine) I was jumping up and down trying to tell him that was what it was like when I switched into the 'bouncing ball' mode. This was sort of what it was like when you 'went' through the process of what some call the 'tunnel' and you ended up on the other side. At that age - I didn't like 'coming back' into my body and sort of made a reference to how I could get my 'shoot' to only shoot one direction. My Dad looked at me kind of odd and I realized it was sort of the wrong thing to say - because he had been fighting and pulling so much to keep me alive. I told him,
"Dad - I am just saying that right up is heck of alot easier than that ride back down."
I thought I would share this latest recall about the morphing process that takes place during the NDE.